Those yaoi feels, it is something that is brought up in many a discussion with fans of yaoi and boys love and why they like it, I even briefly touched up it in one of my older posts. That post being Why Yaoi? In this post, I discussed what it was about the yaoi and boys love genre that I loved so much and went a little bit into my journey into becoming the fujoshi I am today. I never could quite put into words though completely what exactly those yaoi feels are, until now and of all places to figure it out it was within one of the weirdest communities on Youtube, the ASMR community.
Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response or as it is most commonly known as ASMR is that pleasant almost pleasurable for some, tingling sensation over your skin and down one’s spine that comes when you are exposed to certain sounds and you know what this is also a perfect way to describe what many within the yaoi community refer to those yaoi feels that one gets when watching a good BL or yaoi anime or reading a really really great yaoi story, it’s for the plot I swear. It never occurred to me however until my recent discovery of a Korean Youtube channel called of all things DICKHUNTER🌶 that these yaoi feels and ASMR with a little Mukbang thrown in could bring about these same feelings within this yaoi fan. I thought I was crazy to have this thought so I decided to post the following video on my Twitter to see if any other fujoshi would get those same feels I did.
I got a reply from a fellow fujoshi and we ended up discussing what we had just watched and needless to say, I was not the only one getting those yaoi feels from this video. From the flirtatious conversation between Dickhunter and his guest, the obvious inuendoes as they ate the chicken and those adorable fits of giggling the two go through throughout the video, just close your eyes and let the tingles begin.
Now, this is a weird video to enjoy believe me I know, and if you are one of those people who just can not stand the sound of people eating this will not be for you. But looking at the sub count he has it is obvious that DickHunter knows what he is doing with his videos, fujoshi bait or not if you are not grossed out by the sound of someone eating give this a go, at worse you will be grossed out by the sound of someone eating and at best, well who knows could this perhaps be classed as a new fetish perhaps for the yaoi fandom to get on, figuratively of course.
There has been some absolutely amazing posts throughout this month from my fellow OWLS and if you are following along you will know that the theme this month has been Movement and you would have already read the amazing post from Shokamoka all about One Punch Man, I know I did and I absolutely loved it! As stated this month’s theme is Movement and oddly enough by pure chance this gave me the perfect chance to end this month of Fujoshi on the perfect subject, a brief history on the movement that began all this drama. But first when we talk about Movement here on the blog tour we mean the following….
We join movements, organizations, and systems that align with our personal values and beliefs. Sometimes we join these groups because they believe in doing good and making positive changes in society. However, these movements can turn sour when a dictator arises behind the good intentions, there’s a hidden agenda of oppression. It is in these groups that individuals start to shape their identities by questioning their values and beliefs or conforming to the system.
Throughout this month on Yaoi Playground I have been delving into the less happy side of the fujoshi fandom. From toxic fandoms past and present, to the legal issues that can ensure within the fandom for a fujoshi, you might be wondering one thing. If this fandom is so toxic why does it continue to grow so much? That is a more difficult question to answer, but it did start with a movement in the doujinshi and manga world back in the 1970’s and that movement is the subject of my blog tour post this month.
There were a lot of revolutions happening in the world of manga and anime back in the 70’s and one that is not talked about as often as many others is the Shoujo boom that began seeing not only the increase of stories written for women by women but also saw the beginning of the genre we would know today as Yaoi and Boys Love. Gender norms were already being explored within shoujo at the time with works like The Rose of Versailles and Princess Knight taking on gender norms and stereotypes within their pages and then later in their perspective anime adaptations. At the same time however another genre had began. A genre of romantic stories pairing men with other men by woman for a female readership. Some might wonder where the term yaoi itself came from during this time?
The word Yaoi itself is a japanese acronym for the following.
YAma nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi which when translated can be read as No Climax, No Point, No Meaning. It is believed that manga great Osamu Tezuka was the first to use this statement to describe the boy on boy stories that were being circulated at the time because he believed many of them were well a pointless poor quality kind of manga. If only he knew what was on the growing horizon when it came to this genre and the fans it would create. Though he must have known something even back then. From obvious scenes of male fan service pandering in his popular series Black Jack to homosexual content in his adult series MW (though like many works of the era when homosexual characters were introduced they were quite often bad guys) I can not recommend enough looking into Osamu Tezuka’s more adult aimed content when you get the chance, the god father of anime was a brilliant man indeed and for beyond his time.
Through these works and many others of course a new type of fan emerged that being the fujoshi. The term Fujoshi in of itself is a self defecating one in that means ‘rotten girl’ and this does not come from the toxicity of the fandom in it’s present state. Woman who like such taboo must not be ‘proper’ women after all this is something not discussed in normal society right? Well maybe it was just behind closed doors, its hard to say because before the internet it was very hard to see where this all really started.
The invent of the internet and online communities saw a huge influx of fan communities especially in the early 2000’s a subject I went into in detail with my post A Brief History of Fanfiction this is where we see the growth of the modern fujoshi within many fan communities. For many like myself the genre of yaoi and boys love gave us the chance to explore themes we could not before. It was a kind of revolution of movement for women to explore sexual content that did have a female character as a submissive character. This could have also been found within Yuri but this is a subject I am very lacking knowledge in. Being a fujoshi gives a freedom to be pervertive which many would not find elsewhere with fear of being labeled a deviant or worse. It is a chance for growth and all growth comes with growing pains.
This is where we see the young crazy fangirls that can get on the nerves of those around them. The over enthusiastic fangirls that fujoshi are best known for. But as we grow older I like to think most of us mature and grow a more level head when it comes to online discussion. Of course I am not blind to think this goes for everyone. Some people never really mature when it comes to behavior online, but I do ask do not judge a whole fandom for the group of a small few who just happen to have the loudest voice within a fandom.
Yaoi started a movement that turned into what we know as modern fujoshi culture and as I have shown throughout this month on Yaoi Playground it is not a place of rainbows and everyone getting along, but it is the fandom I love so dearly.
There is one more stop this month on the OWLS blog tour and that goes to the wonder BeckNaja! I look forward to seeing what the final post this month will be about!!!
Vile. Deplorable. Triggering. The most disturbing thing they have ever read. We must report this to the creator of Yuri on Ice so they can sue the creator of this disgusting doujinshi!!! These were the reactions around the internet when it came to the controversial doujinshi Dreaming Goddess. First appearing on MyReadingManga in October of 2017, Dreaming Goddess quickly caused a stir within the western Yuri on Ice fandom for it’s extreme and graphic themes of rape, gore and body modification which could all come under the classification or genre of Ero Guro much like the manga I reviewed last October Notpia, which was my unfortunate introduction to the world of Ero Guro and I came to the conclusion that this was a genre I was not going to be a fan of.
Now, if there is one thing that is made obvious by the Yuri on Ice fandom, it is that they really like the fluffy sexy side of yaoi when it comes to the content they choose to enjoy within the fandom. Which can at times come across as odd when one remembers that a large portion of the Killing Stalking fandom started off in the Yuri on Ice fandom, but then again this could also come down to a want to keep the themes explored within one fandom separate to the other. What one enjoys in one fandom might not be what they enjoy in another fandom after all. I myself consider myself within several different fandoms that explore different genres and themes. That being said I am not against a crossover of themes or characters for a little light fun every now and again.
At the same time though, I get it. You see your fandom in a certain way. There are certain themes you find triggering or upsetting and you do not want to see your favorite characters involved in those themes and situations. Well then let’s look at this another perspective then. You love your yaoi and yuri ships but not everyone in the fandom will like the boy on boy ships or girl on girl ships, heck they might even be downright disgusted by them or maybe that is just not their thing. They don’t see the characters the same way as you and you know what, that is their opinion and they are allowed to have that opinion without being harassed and bullied and the same goes for you and the ships you love. If this was just a case of fans not liking what they found within this doujinshi I would have written this post months ago back when the backlash was at its height and discussed the themes within it, heck I probably would have been able to get a tonne of views out of it if I had done so. Unfortunately, there was more to this than just a doujinshi with content people did not like and this is where the ugly side of the fandom reared its head and you know what? I’m not talking about the creator or translators of this doujinshi when I write this.
If you do not like something within or some part of the fandom, you do not have to take part in it. Especially when that material is clearly labeled to contain disturbing themes that might be triggering. It would be the equivalent of touching a hot stove and then complaining you got burned. As I watched the fall out from this doujin spread through both the yaoi and Yuri on Ice community, I found myself once again reminded of the drama we had seen months earlier with the Tokyo Ghoul fandom. Though this was different because this was a fan work and not the work of the original creator. We can not forget the Yuri on Ice fans who were trying to share the work with the original creator of the series and telling them they should sue to doujin artist for what they did, that is a very slippery slope you are asking the creator to traverse down. Doujinshi and other fan works are already on the edge of a cliff when it comes to copyright and going after one could start an avalanche that could see the slow end of a very active part of many fandoms.
The doujinshi was quickly taken down from the many sites it was uploaded to. This was mostly because of fan outrage towards the work and its creator. But as I looked more into the creator it became obvious that they never even wanted this work to be shared online. This was a piece of fan work that was created for a very specific section of the community, that most likely being those within the fandom who also have an interest in ero-guro. Yes there is a huge fandom for this material and you will find it within many fandoms not just yuri on ice and it is more prevalent in the yaoi fandom than one might originally think.
The creator of the doujin was harassed, bullied and even received death threats to the point that they had to shut down all social media accounts. Yes, the content within was not something you or others within your group of friends within a fandom liked, but the fact of the matter is this. Everyone has different tastes in what they like, something you yourself find absolutely deplorable another might like with morbid curiosity. I myself when it comes to the media I enjoy within any fandom know I have high limits for certain subject matters. I, for example, have made it clear I am not a fan of rape without consequence, that being stories where a character is raped and now they love their rapist now. I am also not the biggest fan of waterworks and absolutely despise anything that involves scat, and if you do not know what those two terms mean…. well there is probably a very good reason for that and if you must look up what they mean, turn your safe search on I implore you.
What I am trying to get at is this. You do not have to take part in every part of the fandom you love because you will not like or enjoy everything you find within. You will find triggering content, and you will find the content you do not like. But so fucking what? If you do not like something that does not give you the right to bully and harass the creator of that content. You just do not take part in that part of the fandom. As long as these disturbing and disgusting themes are kept in the realm of fiction, are they really hurting anyone? Yes, they can be triggering, but when content is that extreme it will always have a warning and it is your choice whether or not you choose to listen to that warning or not.
Also yes this goes for stuff I am not a fan of as well such as The Tyrant Falls in Love. This series has a lot of fans, it’s just not my thing and I might not understand why others love this series so much, but I don’t hate them for doing so.
One last side note before I finish this post, do not ask me where to find this doujinshi. The artist has stated they no longer want the work shared due to the backlash they have received and I will respect the artists wishes on this one and not share. Have you ever come across a piece of fan work that you took an immediate dislike to? I will admit this Doujin came close to my limits, till next time my readers.
The Yaoi Army is a publishing company I have been keeping an eye on for a while now, as I try to keep an eye out for new publishing companies in the western market that release yaoi specific stories and I have to say with what I have seen over the last few months from The Yaoi Army it would seem that they know exactly how to market to yaoi fans in the west and upon finding one of their works Fujoshi Trapped in the Perfect Seme’s Body on the Webtoon app well it gave me a chance to read some of their content finally.
This was quite the amusing read I must say even though at times it could be a little cringy, but that was only because how spot on they get the main character of this story. Misa Nanase is a fujoshi of the hopeless degree, something at times I consider myself but that’s a story for another time, my readers. She is downright obsessed with all things yaoi, she reads it constantly when at home, hides it from her parents and even ships her classmates! But it goes further than this and this is where our heroine becomes what I call the hopeless kind of fujoshi. She is so obsessed with yaoi that she wants to be apart of the fantasy world of yaoi, she wants to grow a penis become a handsome man and have some yaoi fun, but of course as the old saying goes ‘be careful what you wish for, you might just get it’ and sometimes getting what we wish for isn’t the greatest thing in the world we thought it would be.
Penis envy is a conversation topic that I have sadly had come up in conversation with other anime fans when the ‘discussion’ of fujoshi and yaoi fangirls comes up, so to speak. I assure you that pun was not completely on purpose. But that discussion itself comes up in one of my older posts, My Life as a Yaoi Fangirl – Dealing with Misconceptions and Hate. I do not doubt that there are fujoshi out there that may feel this way, but at the same time I do see it kind of insulting to think that all fujoshi feel this way, but it comes with the territory of being stereotyped as a fujoshi I suppose. That being said this story is a good one to read as a fujoshi if you can laugh at yourself and the fandom you love.
The first and second volume of this series is available to be read on Webtoon and looking through The Yaoi Army official website there is a lot of really nice merch, the bookmarks that look like mini dakimakuras are both hot and adorable and the option to purchase paperback copies of the story as well as some extra stories is also pretty cool. I found the overall story of the first two volumes a mixed bag of hilariously cringy, downright adorable and overall a very amusing read and would recommend it to anyone who is looking to read more yaoi aimed at a western market.
There is one simple statement I really must share with the community. Hardcore yaoi content is 18+ content, so please, please do not share it with those under 18, because if you do no matter where in the world you might live you are putting yourself at risk of consequences that happen all too often in the yaoi community.
It’s story time from yours truly Mistress of Yaoi with a word of caution to my fellow fujoshi. Over the years I have been a part of many different communities online, most of them being anime ones. There have also been times when I have had to step back from various communities because one thing has become clear to me. There are many yaoi communities online that have at times had an influx of members that really should not be part of these communities. I do not care about how mature you think you are, if you are under 18 and have an interest in boys love and yaoi you need to be very careful with what content within the community you view. As for the older members you need to be careful with who you share hardcore content with. The distribution of pornographic content of any kind to a minor can have dire consequences that can have you labeled as a pedophile for sharing such content with minors.
Over the last year or so here on Yaoi Playground I have mostly written about the many positives of the yaoi and boys love fandom and community, but like many fandoms we are not a perfect fandom, no fandom is and if anything at times we can be far from it. There are many horror stories around the internet and within many a fandom of the crazy fujoshis who ruin everything and I am not going to say they are not out there because they are. Shipping wars that turn into mud slinging flame wars, over coleus fangirls surrounding certain shows, characters, movies, books and so on that drive others insane and even personal attacks on creators of the content fans claim to love, it at times makes the fandom unbearable for others.
This month on Yaoi Playground I want to answer the question, do yaoi fans really ruin fandoms? Do we at times make a fandom intolerable for others who do not have the same interests and love as we? This month I am stepping back and taking a look from the outside in and examining some of the more negative moments within this fandom that I love so dearly in the hopes that perhaps, I can help new fans learn from the lessons I have learned in the past and some lessons I am still learning today. Welcome to a new and exciting month on Yaoi Playground, I will be beginning this journey with a fandom that many believed was made toxic by the fujoshis within and from there we will continue on this journey of looking at things from a different point of view.
I’m not the only one getting Recovery of an MMO Junkie vibes from this anime right? It feels like this anime has the same heart as what that series had, well minus the racist director. There is a comforting, relatable feeling I am getting from this series and I do not just mean because the main character is a fellow fujoshi, though that probably helps. Her relationship with her gaming otaku boyfriend is growing more adorable and learning more about their work colleagues with this episode I find myself wishing I worked with fellow anime fans. On a side note I know my boss knows about my blog but I do not think he reads it, living in a small country town I do not even know if there are other anime fans my age living in the township, but I am getting of topic. I am doing that a lot lately it seems.
I laughed so hard when they made the evangelion reference early in the episode, but the most relatable moment came for me later in the episode when it was revealed Hirotaka can not wink. Don’t worry Hirotaka I could not wink when I was younger and use to practice as well when no one was looking. I am really looking forward to continuing this series, it has me hooked as an awesome show to watch at the end of the week to help me wind down and relax.